Discount Gambling

2009 UTH Win/Loss Statement

Posted in ultimate texas hold'em by stephenhow on December 21, 2009

I just learned that all casinos are required to provide a player with an annual win/loss statement on request. This is to provide a player with an estimate of his net win or loss at the casino for the calendar year, in case you need to write off gambling losses against a W2-G win. The casinos seem to take this regulation pretty seriously, since I see that every $100 buy-in needs supervisor approval, as does every color-out at the end of a session. The floor supervisor enters the data at the console (usually attached to the table), and everyone is tracked.

So yesterday, I was playing Ultimate Texas Hold’em (UTH) as usual, at Harrah’s, on my usual route of the four north San Diego county casinos (Harrah’s, Pauma, Pala, and sometimes Pechanga). I’d been playing exclusively UTH at these casinos for about three months now, logging in about 300 hours total. I’d been doing well, and I knew I wasn’t just donating to the casino (i.e., ATM -> UTH -> casino). So, I just decided to see if I could get my 2009 Win/Loss Statement at each of these casinos.

My 2009 UTH Win/Loss Statement by Casino
Casino Buy-In Cash-Out Net
Harrah’s Rincon -$9.74
Casino Pauma $17,840.55 $18,001.30 +$160.75
Pala +$170
Pechanga +$300
Total +$621.01

As far as discount gambling goes, I’m claiming success. On average, I should lose about $3.50/hr ($.12/hand), so my 300 hours in 2009 should have totaled to a $1000 loss. So I’m way ahead of the mean here. Also, from what I see at the tables, I’m sure most players don’t want to see their win/loss statements for the year. That’s because most people are afraid to 4x raise preflop according to basic strategy. They’re constantly checking monsters like ATo, KJo, 66, QJo, etc. Then they still check their pairs on the flop, I guess waiting for their hands to improve at the river. They make so many mistakes, they’re probably giving the house an average 10%+ edge. They never bet their hands, and they forfeit the huge +46% Play bet edge. I just see people play passively, re-buying until they bust out. And these people are regulars, who see me all the time, but they won’t stop checking. Maybe if they read this post, they’ll start betting.

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  1. David said, on January 15, 2010 at 9:02 am

    This is the only game that gives me motivation to go to casino. I love this game as you can always see the river..

  2. stephenhow said, on January 15, 2010 at 9:11 am

    This game is definitely “poker crack”. You get to see all flops, and make decisions at a few points. That’s why the WPT hold’em game (3x All-In) is really dumb. One preflop decision, and see what happens. And, in that game you have to bet hands like 85o, and there’s only one size bet. UTH plays something like poker; real poker players like it. Its the only game I play, and I still can’t get enough. UTH is to poker like freebasing is to cocaine.

  3. Tom Mc Carthy said, on January 17, 2010 at 3:03 pm

    Steve,

    Just got back from Harrahs Rincon.
    Spent two days using your 4X bet table.
    I only won $100 BUT I was never really behind the whole time.
    Thought I would see you there.
    Tom (retired navy dude)


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