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Simplified Collusion for Mississippi Stud (4 Players)

Posted in collusion, mississippi stud by stephenhow on May 22, 2011

I know it’s not always feasible to wait for 6 players in a Mississippi Stud game, nor is it easy to get 6 strangers to collude together. So while I was at it, I figured I’d work out a simple collusion strategy for 4 players, and see how well it worked. It helps a lot, improving the game from a -4.91% house edge down to about a manageable -1.4% house edge (or, an element of risk of about -0.4%). Here’s the simplified strategy for 4 colluding players:

  • 3rd Street
    • small pair: 3x bet if 0 copies, 1x bet if 1 copy, fold if 2 copies
    • 3x bet 6 high suited outs
    • if suited, 1x bet at least 3 high outs, or 2 high outs and 1 mid out, or 1 high out and 3 mid outs, or 4 mid outs
    • if offsuit, 1x bet at least 3 high outs, or 2 high and 2 mid outs, or 5 mid outs
    • fold all others
  • 4th Street
    • 3x bet 7 suited high outs
    • 3x bet suited 6 high and 1 mid outs
    • 3x bet 0-gap straight flush draw
    • 1x bet small pair
    • 1x bet suited cards
    • 1x bet 3 high and 2 mid outs
    • 1x bet 2 high and 4 mid outs
    • 1x bet 1 high and 6 mid outs
    • 1x bet 7 mid outs
    • 1x bet 6 mid outs w/ 2-gap
    • 1x bet 5 mid outs w/ 1-gap
    • 1x bet 4 mid outs w/ 0-gap
    • fold all others
  • 5th Street
    • 3x bet flush draw, or open-ended straight draw with all outs remaining
    • 1x bet low pair, or straight draw
    • 1x bet 6 high outs
    • 1x bet 5 high and 1 mid outs
    • 1x bet 4 high and 3 mid outs
    • 1x bet 3 high and 5 mid outs
    • 1x bet 2 high and 7 mid outs
    • 1x bet 1 high and 9 mid outs
    • fold all others

The strategy is very close to the simplified 6 player strategy, where you only play a little tighter — you only need one more mid out on the 4th and 5th Street decisions. So it’s really easy to remember both strategies. It’s also pretty easy to collude with 4 players, since 4 players sitting together can easily see each others cards, unless someone is deliberately hiding their hole cards.

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  1. sage said, on June 26, 2011 at 9:11 pm

    what would the house edge be if five players colluded?

    • stephenhow said, on June 27, 2011 at 8:54 pm

      The simple 4 way collusion strategy yields about a 0.5% house edge when applied to 5 players.

      • sage said, on July 3, 2011 at 9:14 pm

        so if there was a strategy created for five player collusion i guess the house edge would be less than 0.5%, right?
        do you have any plans for a five player strategy? reason i ask is that there is a machine version of the game that has five seats. :)

  2. stephenhow said, on July 4, 2011 at 12:01 am

    Post a photo of the game (imgur.com), and provide the paytable, and I’ll add it to my to-do list. Make sure a single deck is used between all players (players have unique hole cards, and a single community board is used).

  3. sage said, on July 4, 2011 at 10:15 pm

    same kind of shufflemaster machine pictured on your site:

    http://discountgambling.net/2009/11/13/shufflemaster-ultimate-draw-poker-machine-viejas/

    but it’s for MississippiStud instead of blackjack.
    the paytable is the same as the paytable of your practice MississippiStud game

    • sage said, on August 18, 2011 at 7:20 pm

      oops sorry, the pay table for the shufflemaster Mississippi Stud game that i’m talking about differs from your practice game. the only difference is a straight pays 4 to 1 instead of 5 to 1.
      so the pay table is as follows:
      RF 500 to 1
      SF 100 to 1
      Quads 40 to 1
      FullHouse 10 to 1
      Flush 6 to 1
      Straight 4 to 1
      Trips 3 to 1
      Two Pair 2 to 1
      JOB 1 to 1
      Pair 6′s – 10′s Push

      also i’m certain as can be that each player is dealt their cards from the same single deck.


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