Discount Gambling

Practice Viejas Card Craps Game

Posted in +EV, card craps by stephenhow on November 9, 2009

The best way to get the feel of the Viejas craps game is to actually play it. I wrote a Java applet to show the way you record rolls, and to model the 18-slot CSM with 44 sets of dice. You can look at the last 6 rolls or so, and figure out if you want to lay 10x odds on your Don’t Pass bet. I wrote this game because I wanted to try out laying 10x odds with a CSM model before I did it in real life. The best thing about writing down the rolls is that it gives you a better view on the key cards (e.g., Aces when the point is 6) than a mechanical 6 roll window.

Click on the screenshot below to play the game. I couldn’t embed it in this hosted blog, because they don’t allow Java applets here 😦

Card craps practice game.

Try out the game. You can start with a basic 6-roll window strategy, and go from there. I think the human is more capable of determining the risk from the key cards in the roll history, than a simple fixed 6 roll window (+1.8% player edge on the flat bet). If it plays well for you, then come on out to San Diego.

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  1. Heavy said, on May 25, 2010 at 3:01 am

    The 6-roll window strategy link is broken.

  2. George said, on March 20, 2011 at 6:51 am

    Does the simulation take into consideration the disadvantage on the Don’t Pass on the Come out roll?
    Thanks – Great Site

    • stephenhow said, on March 20, 2011 at 9:27 am

      Of course the -1.4% edge on the flat bet is accounted for. That’s why you need to lay at least 5x odds to take advantage of the count.

  3. Dan said, on February 20, 2012 at 5:34 pm

    I’m having a hard time getting the Java game to work. I’m using Firefox on a Macbook pro. Any advice? I’m in San Diego for a while and want to try this out. However I need practice on counting, I want to be able to keep up with the dealer. Thanks, thanks for all this great info!

    • stephenhow said, on February 20, 2012 at 7:49 pm

      I have a better Flash game on the main card craps page.

      • Buzz said, on April 11, 2014 at 3:01 am

        Heard craps format has changed at Viejas. No CSM. Still beatable.

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