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Power98 Baccarat @ Marina Bay Sands, SG

Posted in baccarat by stephenhow on June 16, 2012

A few months ago, a reader contacted me about the ridiculously beatable Banker/Player Natural 8/9 bets in the Power98 Baccarat game at the Marina Bay Sands in Singapore. They used to pay 10:1 on a Natural 9, and 11:1 on a Natural 8. (And, they’d pay even more on a “Power Hand”.) Needless to say, this was obviously way too countable, and they finally figured it out, and lowered the pays down to 8:1 for both bets. This game was so beatable, I was even thinking about taking a trip out there. Oh well, our reader tells us that players figured it out, followed by management, and now it’s gone. I mean, this one was old school beatable. Throp and Walden wrote about this one in 1966, and that’s with a payout of 9:1 for both bets. What were these Power98 guys thinking? Anyway, even with their dealing procedure of placing 2 decks behind the cut card, the game was still beatable for about 61% of a fixed bet per shoe. It must have been funny to see everyone all of a sudden betting huge on both Player and Banker Natural 9. Oh well, sic transit gloria.

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  1. James said, on June 17, 2012 at 7:02 am


    My source told me that a group of APs from Taiwan won about SGD200k in March and this group was barred from Sands casino. However, the management only lower the pays in early of June. LOL


    • OPM said, on June 18, 2012 at 1:21 am

      I saw you asking about power baccarat a year ago in a Dragon7 thread? how much did you make?

    • Perry said, on May 10, 2015 at 5:44 pm

      I’m one ap .played it from march until the game end.

      • James said, on May 13, 2015 at 1:22 am

        Perry, are the one who rejected my WhatsApps chat ? Are you Singaporean ?

  2. James said, on June 18, 2012 at 3:47 am

    We started late, about 80K. We plan to “milk” it slowly and hope the game can last longer. However, other team “whacked” it like there’s no tomorrow !

    What should you do if you find a beatable game ?

    • Konstantin said, on June 18, 2012 at 5:09 am

      A good +EV game is a textbook example of the tragedy of the commons, ideally you would have many groups each making a small amount, staying under the radar. However, if somebody gets greedy, the house catches on and the game gets shut down. Chances are, somebody will overplay the game, or the house will hire someone good at math, or the game will shut down for some other reason. If that is the case, the best option is to hit the game for as much as you can, as fast as you can, and get your money while the getting is good. Reminds me of a story I heard somewhere where two separate card-counting teams hit a casino right after it opened, and a month later when they looked at the numbers they realized what happened and went to CSMs.

  3. Ted said, on June 24, 2012 at 7:49 pm

    The Wizard of Odds works for Sands Corporation as a math consultant. I would think his hire had something to do with the payout changes.

  4. OPM said, on June 24, 2012 at 9:03 pm

    what, you mean the wizard killed an AP game?

  5. acw said, on June 27, 2012 at 3:40 pm

    I am rather confused, as I used to know the game as just Power Baccarat (without the 89 or 98):
    So has this game replaced it? Or is the “old” version still available too?

  6. hmjt said, on September 12, 2012 at 6:11 am

    Resorts World Sentosa recently introduced easy six baccarat. Is this game beatable?

    • James said, on September 12, 2012 at 8:22 am

      similar to one of the online casino side bet ?

    • stephenhow said, on September 12, 2012 at 9:45 am

      Looks like the Easy 6 side bet is as countable as the Dragon-7. But since it’s a 6:1 payout (instead of a 40:1), it’s much lower variance. Also, the betting frequency is higher than the dragon-7. I’ll publish shortly.


  7. James said, on September 12, 2012 at 8:27 am

    hmjt, I would like to know more details

    contact me :

  8. HongKongFan said, on July 6, 2015 at 10:37 pm

    I played the game from November 2011 till the end, using some technique other than counting. I saw most of the APs who played this game (30+ people from 10+ teams), although I am just a part-time player.

    The first team I saw was a team lead by a Taiwan AP / book writer in March. On the third day they arrived, the house reduced the table maximum from S$5,000 (total amount for all natural bets) to S$1,000. This killed the team immediately and so the leader dismissed the team. None of the 10 members left Singapore. Instead, the big team was divided into several smaller teams and continued counting using their own money. On the fourth day, the house started to bar the players. Then the game lasted for another 3 months before the so-called version 3, which pays only 8 to 1 instead of 10 or 11 to 1 for natural 9 and 8, was released in June.

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